30.03.2008
VanceS contributed 103 messages, 7 emotes during 115 minutes.

2008.03.30 05:01:25 Login

Room: VirtualVance

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Room: TI_Reception

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JeffC: not me, Nerzig.

ClaireB: yes but i have to support others as well and sometmes it's frustrating

ClaireB: hiya vance; when are yoyu leaving?

JeffC: but Vance is... I think (going to NY TESOL).

NergizK: Hi Vance

VanceS: leaving Tue night

VaughanC joined the room.

VanceS: doing grade reports now

ClaireB: buth just twitted that she's on the plane

ClaireB: hello vaughn

NergizK: Uh, that sound like a lot of fun :-)

ClaireB: vaughan

VaughanC: Hi

VanceS: Hi Vaughann

NergizK: Hi Vaughan

VaughanC: This is the Webheads meeting right?

VanceS: this is, welcome

VanceS: just started, where are you?

VaughanC: I am in New Zealand it's 1AM

VanceS: I'm in Abu Dhabi and it's 4 pm

ClaireB: i'm in pittsburgh pa and it's 8 am

NergizK: Turkey, Bursa, 3 pm

VanceS: we're all over the world

VanceS: are you a TALO member, Vaughan?

VaughanC: No

ClaireB: what is talo?

VanceS: teaching and learning online

VanceS: Leigh Blackall in NZ

ClaireB: oh, duh :-)

JeffC: i'm in forest grove oregon, near portland... and heading back to bed.

NergizK -)

VanceS: sleep well Jeff

JeffC: 5a.m. here

ClaireB: well it was good to talk to you, jeff

JeffC: well... with my insomnia... probably be back in a bit.

NergizK: Good night, Jeff

VanceS: take melatonin

ClaireB: i was lucky; when i was in california last week, my brain was still in pittsburgh, so 5 am didn't seem bad

NergizK: he he

ClaireB: vance, do you take melatonin?

VanceS: when traveling yes

ClaireB: what brand name?

NergizK: Does this help with jet lag?

VanceS: whatever I can get, don't recall a particular brand

ClaireB: maybe we should try it when we go to japan

VanceS: yes, it's a hormone present in young people that tends to dissipate in older folks

ClaireB: i mean marc and I

ClaireB: well, we are older folks

ClaireB: and jet lag bothers me more than it used to

NergizK: I won't comment

VanceS: this is why young people are able to sleep so well

ClaireB: interesting

ClaireB: also, they are able to go longer without sleep, i think

NergizK: Didn't know that this was the reason

ClaireB: when i was younger, i could stay up much later with no harm than I can now

VanceS: it's more present in youthful bodies than in aging ones

ClaireB: aha

RitaZ joined the room.

VanceS: it doesn't zonk you out

VanceS: Hi Rita

NergizK: Hi Rita!

ClaireB: vance, i would like to point out to you that nergiz lives in turkiey and she is a mac user

ClaireB hugs rita

RitaZ hugs everybody from the States

ClaireB: hi rita

RitaZ: hola, Clarita!!

ClaireB: you should hug nergiz too

NergizK: Was Vance one of those people you mentioned, Claire?

RitaZ: sorry..., I mean, I am in the Staes!

VanceS: uh oh, what's claire saying about me now??

ClaireB: one of what people?

RitaZ: (missing comma :-))

NergizK: who think that Macs are only used in the States

ClaireB: i was pointing out to vance that nergiz lives in turkey and she is a mac user

VanceS: great Rita, how 's the weatehr

RitaZ: cold, Vance

NergizK: Punctuation is important :-)

ClaireB: yes, it's unseasonably cold here

RitaZ: yeah, Nergiz!!

ClaireB: yes, that was an interesting illustration of the importance of a comma

VanceS: is it more unusual to live in turkey or to be a mac user?

ClaireB: i should show it to my husband, who never uses commas

NergizK: Interesting question, Vance

VanceS . o O ( understands from the comma that Claire has only one husband )

RitaZ: good example Ill show to my stds :-)

ClaireB: that was just my subtle dig about doing webhead events on pc-only platforms and thinking that it only affects people in the states

RitaZ: lol V

ClaireB: lol; good one, rita!

ClaireB: i have only one husband, at least at one time

RitaZ :-))

NergizK: Interesting discussions today, lol

ClaireB: in california, i think they call it serial monogamy

VanceS . o O ( thinking about that one ... )

EBobB joined the room.

RitaZ: people, I justwanted to gtreet you all before meeting next week!! My kids are pressing me to leave now, going to spend the day in Manhattan, cold day but sunny!! so....

EBobB: Good morning, all.

ClaireB: welcome, ebob

ClaireB: have fun, rita, and see you soon

RitaZ: SEE some of you in 3 days!!!!

EBobB: Bye, Rita.

NergizK: Sounds great, Rita. Enjoy it!

VanceS: Hi Ebob, and see you there Rita

NergizK: Hi EBob

EBobB: Hi Vance,

RitaZ: thanks, Nergiz, hug you ALL!

EBobB: Wish I was going to be there.

NergizK hugs Rita

RitaZ left the room (signed off).

EBobB: sounds like fun.

ClaireB: we wish you were, too, bob

EBobB: Ill be t here in spirit.

VanceS: fly up, bob

ClaireB: i have to leave now and go to lab to solve a software crisis, even though it's sunday

EBobB: The only place they let me fly is in SL.

ClaireB: see some of you soon -- bye now

VanceS: ok, claire cya next week

NergizK: On a Sunday? What a shame!

ClaireB left the room (signed off).

NergizK: Bye, Claire.

NinaTL joined the room.

VanceS: hi Nina

NergizK: Hi Nina!

NinaTL: Good morning all!

EBobB: Hi, Nina

NinaTL: Vaughan, I don't believe we have met before

NinaTL: I'm Nina Liakos from Maryland, USA

VanceS: Vaughan is from New Zealand

VaughanC: No, first time here, I'm from New Zealand

EBobB: Im Elderbob from Grand Prairie, Texas, Vaughn

NinaTL: How did you find it?

VanceS wasn't sure if Vaughn was still awake

EBobB: ....go to the end of the road and turn left.

VaughanC: Barely awake

NinaTL thinks he must be awake since he posted a message

NinaTL: LOL EBob

NinaTL: What time is it in NZ?

NinaTL: 8:20 am here

VaughanC: I was referred to Webheads by a colleague a few years ago, but I never got around to looking iit up

VaughanC: 1:20 AM

NinaTL: Are you a webhead at heart, do you think?

NinaTL: Ouch, that is late

VaughanC: I don't know what is all about, really

EBobB: Anyone that can keep those kind of hours, is naturally a webhead.

NinaTL: Learning and having fun

VaughanC: Between jobs actually

NinaTL: while teaching ESL/EFL

VanceS: you can join our list Vaughn

NinaTL: Vance is Mr Webhead Extraordinaire

VaughanC: indeed

VanceS: must look that up in Wikipedia

NinaTL: Where did/will you teach? What sort of programs/students?

NergizK: Vaughan, it's the best community you can join as an EFL/ESL teacher

NinaTL: Hear, hear!

NergizK: Absolutely!

NinaTL: Nergiz, have you posted this week? I've been too busy to check Bloglines

VaughanC: I returned from two years on the JET programme in Japan last year and recently finished my MA in applied linguistics

NinaTL: Trying to plan 2 weeks ahead

NinaTL: Wow, I have young friends who are anxiously hoping to be hired by JET

NinaTL: What did you do in Japan?

NergizK: No, Nina, last post was about schools

VanceS: what is JET?

VaughanC: I taught at a senior high school in Fukuoka

NergizK: I heard of JET

NinaTL: Did you enjoy it? I like Japanese students, generally

VanceS: some of us will be in Fukuoka next summer

VaughanC: Japanese Excange and Teaching, it's a government funded programme

NinaTL: Japan Education?? something?

NinaTL: Thanks Vaughan

VaughanC: What are you going to Fukuoka for?

VanceS: WorldCALL

VanceS: in August

VaughanC: Cool, I would love to go back

MichaelAC joined the room.

MichaelAC: Hi everyone

VanceS: hey Michael

NinaTL: Hi Michael! What are you doing out of bed? (or are you already in NY?)

NergizK: Hi Michael

VaughanC: Hi

MichaelAC: I'm in Tokyo en route to NY!!!!

MichaelAC: 9.00 pm here

NinaTL: Yay! I can't wait to meet you f2f!

VanceS: nice to be able to leave early

NinaTL: When do you leave, Vance?

MichaelAC: Likewise Nina!

VanceS: I leave Tuesd\y

MichaelAC: agreed V

NinaTL: Vaughan here is from your nexk of the woods (NZ)

NinaTL: neck

MichaelAC: hi Vaughan

VaughanC: Hi

MichaelAC: where in enzed?

NinaTL: How long do you stop over in Tokyo?

MichaelAC: 2 days in Tokyo - 5 in Japan

VaughanC: New Plymouth but living in Wellington now

NinaTL: And you arrive in NY...?

MichaelAC: been in Nagoya for a few days

EBobB left the room (signed off).

MichaelAC: Got it Vaughan

MichaelAC: I arrive in NY on Tuesday

VanceS: Tom Robb's place?

NergizK . o O ( she should organize a TESOL in Turkey to meet Webheads f2f :-) )

MichaelAC: no, but I did see Tom

MichaelAC: he's well

NinaTL: Australia: New Zealand :: USA: Canada?

NinaTL: He isn't coming to TESOL

MichaelAC: good idea Nergiz - esp if you can pay for us all :)

NinaTL :-)))

NergizK: I might be able to provide a place to sleep.. :)

NergizK: If I could pay, I would be in NY now :-)

MichaelAC: that's a start!

MichaelAC: see you're lining up breweries for us Vance.....

NergizK: Is that an idiom?

VanceS: always good for between meals

EBobB joined the room.

MichaelAC: I'm practicing at the moment - Asahi

EBobB: Disconnencted myself.

VanceS: at the heartland you can get a variety of different beers

MichaelAC: if you mean lining up breweries Nergiz - no - I mean that literally

NergizK: ha ha

MichaelAC: (Vance likes beer)

VanceS: how are your second life classes coming, Nergiz?

NergizK: I feel a bit overwhelmed. Paul accepted me as teacher (trainee) at languaglab

NergizK: Now, I attend classes twice a week

VanceS: cool, that seems like an interesting place

NergizK: But they started four weeks ago...

VanceS: I am still hanging out there

MichaelAC: congrats Nergiz

EBobB: I was just reading about how to set up Wonderland, the open source SL alternative.

NergizK: It's a great place. And they are really serious about it

NergizK: Thanks, Michael

NergizK: Hope I can cope, though

VanceS: of course you need a network, how is the wonderland network?

NergizK: Haven't heard of Wonderland

EBobB: Not sure yet, Vance, still in the reading phase....its a big download.

VanceS: readings Active Worlds forums recently, people talking about how empty it is now

VanceS: or was

EBobB: Wonderland, has not been available to the public that long and is really still in development.

NergizK: I see

EBobB: I am thinking that part of the appeal of SL is the mircoeconomy.

EBobB: A lot of folks are using it to make money.

MichaelAC: the ability to make money?

EBobB: Sure, lots of folks sell thingns in SL.

NergizK: https://lg3d-wonderland.dev.java.net/

EBobB: They may be related to SL or to real life.

EBobB: Thanks Nergis

EBobB: Nergiz

NergizK: There seems to be a conference on April 3rd in NY

NergizK: Virtual Worlds 2008

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EBobB: I think the competition from several metaverses will cause them all to improve.

EBobB: Isnt that what you say, dennis

NergizK: Competition is good.

NinaTL: Morning, Dennis!

DennisOl: I'm not sure, EB.

NergizK: Good morning, Dennis

NinaTL gives Dennis a virutal hug

NinaTL: virtual

VanceS: hi dennis

DennisOl: Morning, Nina and Nergiz and Vance and Michael and Vaughan and Jeff.

MichaelAC: virutal hugs are always nice :)

DennisOl: Hugs!

NinaTL: haha

NinaTL: cold fingers

MichaelAC smiles

NinaTL: Dennis, this is Vaughan from NZ, recently returned from 2 yrs in Japan

NinaTL: Vaughan, Dennis is in Phoenix AZ (USA)

DennisOl: Welcome, Vaughan.

VaughanC: Hi

MichaelAC: you're so inclusive Nina ;)

NinaTL grins

DennisOl: A mark of a good facilitator, Michael.

MichaelAC: indeed

DennisOl smiles

NergizK has been practising posting links to del.icio.us and twittering

DennisOl: Good for you, Nergiz!

VanceS: Bout time we got a decent facilitator around here

NinaTL has also started tagging sites in del.icio.us. thanks to Vance's help last week

NinaTL: Now I am faced with a question:

VanceS: delicious grows on you

NergizK: I think you are all good facilitators

DennisOl: I think so, too, Nergiz.

MichaelAC smiles

NinaTL: Should I systematically go through my 100s of urls in mybookmarks, entering them to del.icio.us?

MichaelAC: good`Q Nina

NergizK: Good question, Nina.

VanceS: I would think not

MichaelAC: snap Nergiz!

NergizK -)

NinaTL: It seems like if I am using 2 bookmarking sites I will be making more work for myself, making it harder to find stuff when I want it

VanceS: 90% of those are probably obsolete

EBobB: I think one of the great difficulties of de.lic.ious is the organization of links.

NergizK: Why that, Vance?

NinaTL: Well, since I would have to look at them I could decide whetehr or not to add them to my del.icio.us

MichaelAC: i haven't bothereed doing it nina - find i don't need my old ones much

NinaTL: It could be a summer project

NinaTL: That's interesting, Michael

MichaelAC: things move so quickly

EBobB: I think there are a couple of firefox addons that will do it for you.

NinaTL: Of course there are plenty of sites in mybookmakrs which I use constantly, like UMaryland sites, libraries, virtual flowers...

EBobB: First you have to convert your book marks to CSV, then import them to Del.icio.us.

VanceS: I guess it's just a personal thing, I find that I agree with Michael, if you need it, it will find its way into the new system

NinaTL: Ooh, now that is a good idea.. but they would have no tags...?

NinaTL: What is CSV?

EBobB: Depends on the tags in your bookmakrs, I think.

EBobB: Comma, Separated, Values

MichaelAC: the sort of file you can use with Excel

EBobB: Machine language so the processors can read em.

NinaTL: If you add something to del.icio.us and then add it again by mistake, do you end up with 2 separate ones or one with (possibly) additional tags?

MichaelAC: for exporting database info to other places

DennisOl: CSV (Wikipedia):

DennisOl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values

VaughanC: I haven't used del.icio.us for a while. I use Diigo becuase it allows you to annotate pages

NergizK listening attentively...

EBobB: You can always delete duplicates.

EBobB: Diigo seems to be the up and coming book marker.

DennisOl: Diigo:

DennisOl: http://www.diigo.com/

VanceS: When I duplicate things in Delicious I find I can spot them and if I think its worth the effort I can consolodate my tags

VanceS: I think, using delicious, I can find a screencast on that topic

MichaelAC: another housekeeping task - organising tags!! aaaggghhh

VanceS: folksonomies are sloppy

EBobB: Trouble with organising tags, is getting involved in reviewing old favorite sites.

VanceS: BUT flexible

EBobB: I get bogged down in the process of it.

NinaTL is watching the diigo demo video

NergizK: What do you mean by organsing tags?

VanceS: here, watch this http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/gems/delicious.html

EBobB: I will be glad when the machines take over....then Ill just sit around and drink beer.

NinaTL: LOL

NergizK: Might not be good for your health, EBob

MichaelAC: grouping them imto categories Nergiz

NergizK -)

EBobB: The machines taking over OR the beer

NinaTL: both

MichaelAC smiles

NergizK still has to learn a lot

MichaelAC: er - think that's true for all of us Nergiz

DennisOl: Folksonomies:

DennisOl: http://www.uie.com/articles/folksonomies/

EBobB: Well, we are all unplugged from the Matrix at some point, even if just for an upgrade.

MichaelAC: this Internet beast never stays still

NinaTL: The problem with all of this (bookmarking, tagging) is that I don't have the time to go back and actually read all the stuff I boomark (or tag)

NinaTL: so it just sits there

DennisOl: Sounds familiar, Nina.

DennisOl: I go through periodic purges of sites from my lists.

MichaelAC: I find stuffed I;'ve tagged on delcious useful for preparing presentatiomns

EBobB: I think one finally finds a way to do purposful bookmarking.

NinaTL: I can't figure out how some people (some of you here, in fact) manage to do everything that you do

DennisOl: Ditto, Nina.

MichaelAC: not sure meself Nina!

EBobB: LIke Michael recommends.

NergizK: I feel the same Nina

NinaTL: Maybe you sleep less?

VaughanC: clones help

VanceS: I just demo'd how I can go into tags and find the screencast by Jon Udell (of heavymetal umtlaut fame) and find how he deals with organizing tags

NinaTL: haha!

MichaelAC: you got a clone Vaughan?

NinaTL: I've added the demo to my YouTube playlist on Web 2.0, along with the 8 other videos I will probably never watch again hahah

MichaelAC: LOL

MichaelAC: but maybe you can refer other people to them

MichaelAC: if they need

VaughanC: a couple but they spend all their time arguing about who is in charge

MichaelAC smiles

VanceS: this udell video is good, watching it again, never expected to

NinaTL: url pls Vance?

VanceS: about how we 'wind up' creating the semantic web

VanceS: http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/gems/delicious.html

MichaelAC: and go and drink beer?

DennisOl: Hmm. It'

EBobB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahg6qcgoay4 Here is another interesting video you probably wont use again,

MichaelAC listens to Dennis

DennisOl: It's only 5:54 AM for me, so having a beer isn't a likely option.

MichaelAC: yikes

NinaTL thinks Nergiz must be horrified at all this talk of beer

EBobB: But the video says something about the power to observe and maybe that is part of what Del.icio.us is all about.

NergizK: Having lived in Germany for a long time, i'm used to it, Nina :-)

VanceS: i still dien't see the bear

NergizK: And people here dring beer, too

MichaelAC: I got a reall surprise recently wjhen someone told me they followed me on delicious - so sometimes you're helping pthers when you're not aware of it

NinaTL: Yes, I am sure they do

VanceS: oh, second time, yeah\

VanceS: good

EBobB: Keep looking Vance....it is clearly there....enters the screen from the right...looks right at you and then moonwalks off to the left.

NinaTL: My Qatari and Saudi students are much more naive about alcohol

EBobB: Its hard to see because your focus is too small.

EBobB: Sometimes thats what happens on Del.icio.us.

VanceS: interesting, second time I still didn't ee it

DennisOl: (It was actually someone in a bear suit—like a mascot would wear.)

NinaTL: Interesting video, Vance (Udell)

EBobB: Instead of choosing several URLs and giving them tags....Set up a category then set up tags within it.

VanceS: let's see, a tag for this one moonwalkingbear ??

DennisOl: hee hee hee

MichaelAC: that'd do

EBobB: right Dennis, but most people dont even see it the first time....because you care counting the passes of the white team.

MichaelAC: I love checking random bookmarks on delicious to see how people tag things - often v weird/oblique

EBobB: I didnt tag it, but I do recall where it is in my RSS reader.

MichaelAC: see how other brains work

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VanceS: http://del.icio.us/vancetevens/moonwalkingbear

EBobB: or at least which blog.

NinaTL: something to pass your spare time, Micke

NinaTL: Micke

MichaelAC: yep

NergizK: Spare time?

NinaTL tries one last time) Mike

MichaelAC: just 5 - 10 mins every now and then

VanceS: spare time? what's that?

NinaTL: I haven't experienced any lately

MichaelAC: tht was something they had in the old days

VanceS: the thing the internet was invented to kill?

ButchGst1 left the room.

MichaelAC: LOL

NergizK: "bored" is another obsolete word

MichaelAC: always was in my world Nergiz

NinaTL: not for my daughter

NinaTL: Teenagers bore easily

NergizK: Nina, it's mostly teenagers who seem to be bored

MichaelAC: everythings boring when you're a teen

NergizK: I have never experienced that in my life

NinaTL: I think retirees who have never managed to develop interests outside their work are also bored

NergizK: Most retiress I know are busier than young or working people

MichaelAC: you know some Nina?

NinaTL: Yeh, a few

EBobB: Well, folks, I am going to pour myself a coffee (since beer is out this early), and read a bit more about the new Beta Firefox I have now installed.

NinaTL: Bye Bob

MichaelAC: OK - cya Bob

NinaTL: Have a nice week

NergizK: Bye Bob!

EBobB: Have fun in NY.

DennisOl: Take good care, EB. It's always a pleasure to chat.

NinaTL: Check out the bloggers at wia-in-nyc

EBobB: See you all at Knowplace.

VanceS waves

NinaTL: Michael, you should post about your trip

EBobB: Ill be plugged in for sure.

MichaelAC: I'm a lousy blogger Nina

EBobB left the room (signed off).

NinaTL: no way!

MichaelAC: I flickr it instead

NinaTL: You could post a link in the blog then

MichaelAC: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mikecogh/

DennisOl: Great idea, Nina.

NinaTL: I think you have authoring privileges

NergizK: Another retiree, my mom, wants to go to the shopping centre with me...

MichaelAC: yeh - guess I 'should' ;)

NinaTL: not the bored type?

DennisOl: Wonderful photos, Michael.

NergizK: Bye everyone. And enjoy NY

MichaelAC: wow Dennis 0 that was quick!

DennisOl: Take care, Nergiz.

NergizK: i'll read your posts

MichaelAC: and thank you

NinaTL: Thanks, Nergiz, see you in 2 weeks

NergizK: See you, Nina

MichaelAC: Bye Nergiz

NinaTL: I will not be connected next Sunday

NergizK: Ok

NergizK: Was nice chatting to you all

DennisOl: I looked at only a few of them, Mike, and I'd visited your Flickr site before.

MichaelAC: ic

DennisOl: Nice chatting with you, too, Nergiz.

MichaelAC: nice to know someone's looking

NergizK left the room (signed off).

VanceS can't get flickr at the office

MichaelAC: nor should you be able to - big timewaster :)

NinaTL: Nice photos, Mike

MichaelAC: thanks Nina

NinaTL is looking at a slideshow of Mike's photos

NinaTL wishes there were captions but understands time constraints

MichaelAC: exactly

JudithSW joined the room.

NinaTL: hmm cherry blossoms

VanceS: hi Judith

MichaelAC: yes - lots

MichaelAC: and it's till really cold

MichaelAC: still

NinaTL: Who's the guy on the horse (statue)?

JeffC left the room (signed off).

JudithSW left the room.

MichaelAC: someone whose name I didn't recognise :(

NinaTL: I like the pagoda roof with cranes

NinaTL: the construction kind

MichaelAC: there's a lot of that too - old and new everywhere

NinaTL: like in Beijing

MichaelAC: I imagine

NinaTL: the only Asian city I have ever been to

DennisOl: When were you there, Nina?

NinaTL: 2003 October

NinaTL: 2004 July

NinaTL: very short working trips for UM

DennisOl: Wow! Twice!

NinaTL: I was very lucky!

DennisOl: I was there in 1982 and 2001. Big changes between those two trips!

VanceS: I really like Beijing

NinaTL: Wow, I can imagine

VanceS: I like riding a bike there

NinaTL: Metro stations look similar everywhere

DennisOl: I liked it, too, but I didn't see many bikes in 2001.

NinaTL: Just a lot of traffic

DennisOl: In 1982, bikes were everywhere.

NinaTL: but there were lots of bikes

NinaTL: The bikers sit up very straight and they all go at the exact same speed

NinaTL: It's funny to an American

VanceS: I guess I was there around 1995 or so

NinaTL: Any bikers in Japan?

DennisOl: Maybe I didn't see bikes in 2001 because there were so many more in 2001.

DennisOl: On my first trip, there were very few cars, but in 2001 there were lots of cars . . . and traffic jams.

NinaTL: I love Mike's picture of a sign that says "Rounge" (I think they meant "Lounge")

MichaelAC: if you mean cyclists - yes. And they ride on the footpaths/pavements

VanceS: they get cornfoo

DennisOl: That reminds me of Taiwan, Michael.

MichaelAC: quite a lot of them and I can't belive the Japanese alow such unruly behaviour

NinaTL: cornfoo?

DennisOl: Confused.

NinaTL: aha

VanceS: I see Dennis speaks many many languages

NinaTL: They are not known to be unruly generally

NinaTL: Mike was that you presenting in the slides? Where's your hair?

DennisOl: Yes, I learned Cornfoo as a child, Vance.

MichaelAC: that's right Nina - it kind of me suprised me - but I like it for that too

DennisOl: One of my friends was a native speaker of Cornfoo.

NinaTL: How will I recognize you? I have another image of you in my mind from your other pictures

VanceS: this is one of my favorite words from Thailand

NinaTL: haha Dennis

DennisOl: I love it!

MichaelAC: I was presenting Nina but the photo is of Michael Thomas

VanceS: that and ranara icecream

DennisOl: Ranara: hmmm. Let me think about that.

MichaelAC: just look for the guy witht the greyest hair

NinaTL: OK so do you still look like I think you do then

NinaTL: long and curly gray hair?

DennisOl: Vanilla?

NinaTL: carrying a guitar, maybe?

VanceS: SNAP

MichaelAC: not so long at the mo

NinaTL: OK I see you

NinaTL: I can recognize you if you still look like that

NinaTL: but don't forget to attach your webheads logo to your badge!

MichaelAC: but I've been wondering the same thing Nina - there wil be lots of w/herads I won't recognise and I'll have to ask

NinaTL: Yes, it's weird at first

VanceS: Aiden will have Webheads badges?

MichaelAC: we know each other as online beings but someone I have to recognise f2f

DennisOl: I'm hoping there will be lots of photos taken in NYC.

NinaTL: Last year I was worried the whole convention would go by and I would never find any webheads

MichaelAC: LOL

DennisOl: Little did you know!

NinaTL: Elizabeth put some logos on the wiki for us to print out and tape onto the badges

NinaTL: They are at the bottom of the 1st page at wia-in-nyc.pbwiki

VanceS: url?

NinaTL: Indeed, Dennis

NinaTL: The first one I find, Day 2, was Ibrahimjon

NinaTL: There was a big colloquium which I didn't know about so I missed it

NinaTL: They all came to the EV after that in a big clump!

NinaTL: so I met about 10 people in 5 minutes

MichaelAC: Tom Robb says just hang out in the EV

NinaTL: After that, it was easy

NinaTL: That is what I did, Mike

DennisOl: http://wia-in-nyc.pbwiki.com/

MichaelAC: U still there Vaughan?

NinaTL is still enjoying Mike's slides

VanceS: thanks dennis, but I don't see the badge

NinaTL: At the bottom, vance?

VanceS lifts monitor and checks under the stand

NinaTL: http://wia-in-nyc.pbwiki.com/Presentations

MichaelAC chuckles

DennisOl: Click on Presenters and scroll to the bottom.

NinaTL: Sorry

NinaTL: not on the 1st page

DennisOl: Thanks, Nina. (It was "Presentations," not "Presenters.")

NinaTL: Goodness! A lot of presentations have been added since last I checked

NinaTL: Maybe I should print some extras and take them to NY, with some Scoth tape

NinaTL: Scotch

VanceS: we can hand them out to people

NinaTL: Yes

NinaTL: Which size, do you think?

VanceS: the big one

VanceS: printing now

NinaTL: Okay, so I don't need to?

DennisOl: There may be several versions of Webheads badges.

VanceS: well, you can do some :-)

NinaTL: I need to do it on my other computer

NinaTL: This one has no printer attached

NinaTL: I really wanted to make buttons or t-shirts but couldn't afford to make enough

NinaTL: This is a great idea Elizabeth had

MichaelAC: Well I might go and see what Lonely Planet says I should see in Tokyo tomorrow......

MichaelAC: Lovely chatting with you folks

NinaTL: We will see you on Wednesday at Pongsri Thai!

DennisOl: See Nikolai-do on one of your trips to Tokyo, Mike.

MichaelAC: see you in a few days V and N!!!

NinaTL: Have a good flight to the US

MichaelAC: thanks Nina

DennisOl: Yes, indeed. Have a great flight and a great time in NYC!

MichaelAC: what's Nikolai-do Dennis?

DennisOl: It's an Orthodox church. Japanese, but with a Russian background.

MichaelAC: OK

NinaTL: an interesting mix

MichaelAC: bye everyone. Safe travels

NinaTL: Thanks

NinaTL: c u soon

DennisOl: http://orthodoxwiki.org/Holy_Resurrection_Cathedral_(Tokyo,_Japan)

MichaelAC: I'll check the link D - ciao

MichaelAC left the room (signed off).

DennisOl: Above: Nocolai-do / Nicorai-do

VanceS: woops, I was printing

NinaTL: btw I forgot to say hi to everyone from Leanne

DennisOl: Nicolai / Nicorai

NinaTL: We chatted a couple of days ago

NinaTL: She is in Oaxaca

DennisOl: They've certainly been having an adventure, haven't they?

NinaTL: I think they are planning to settle there

DennisOl: I wondered about that.

NinaTL: She said they plan to buy some land and Calvin will build them a house!

DennisOl: That's terrific!

DennisOl: I wonder if they'll have any problems buying land.

NinaTL: We'll see

NinaTL: I am reading her latest blog post

NinaTL: It's very long!

DennisOl: Yes, I read it.

DennisOl: http://lianadevine.wordpress.com/

DennisOl: I haven't commented recently. Need to do that.

NinaTL: I love the Mexican names, like Ocozocoautla

DennisOl: I'll be back in a few minutes. Need to refresh my coffee.

NinaTL: My hubby just brought me a cup of steaming joe

NinaTL: I only drink coffee on Sundays

NinaTL: I get easily addicted!

NinaTL: btw something strange happened the other day

NinaTL: While Vicki was watching YouTube the internet access went out

NinaTL: I couldn't access the internet on eitehr computer

NinaTL: it turned out to be a router problem

NinaTL: but in the meantime I was able to chat via YM!

VanceS: still trying to print this webheads badge

NinaTL: I chatted for a while with Natasa Grozic

VanceS: I've got 30 on one sheet

NinaTL: Don't you find that odd?

NinaTL: That should cover everyone, vance!

VanceS: but printer won't print it

VanceS: I'll upload to the wiki

NinaTL: wonder why

NinaTL: maybe too many on the page?

DennisOl: So you think there will be about 30 Webheads at TESOL, Nina?

NinaTL: Yes, I think that's possible

DennisOl: Thanks. Valuable info.

NinaTL: There are 22 for dinner Wednesday now, which includes some spouses: Elizabeth's, Tere's...

NinaTL: The list is on the YG database

DennisOl: Ah, good . . . so Teresa and João will be there on Wednesday.

NinaTL: Yes

DennisOl: Yes, I've seen it, but not recently.

DennisOl: And Elizabeth and Jack, too.

VanceS: we need a lot more badges so we can just hand them out

NinaTL: I did not check it today

NinaTL: So it's up to me to print vance?

DennisOl: Good idea. Lots of people will forget to print them or not have tape or won't have checked the database.

NinaTL: Yes, for sure

DennisOl: Definitely!

VanceS: i'm trying to upload my 30 logo page to the wiki now

NinaTL: I hope people will blog

DennisOl: Carla also did a badge, I think.

NinaTL: It will be hard for me bec I have no laptop

DennisOl: I hope so, too, Nina. I thoroughly enjoyed last year's blog.

NinaTL: I even considered renting one but it was $75 for the week

NinaTL: Arrgghh

VanceS: http://wia-in-nyc.pbwiki.com/f/webheadsbadge.doc

DennisOl: I think the Portland Square Hotel has Internet access.

NinaTL: but I don't have the computer!

BjB joined the room.

NinaTL: Looks great, Vance, I will try to print it later

BjB waves hi

NinaTL: Hey, BJ!

NinaTL: Top of the morning to ya!

VanceS: hi bj (we can't have too many Nina)

DennisOl: http://www.portlandsquarehotel.com/

DennisOl: "Complimentary wireless high-speed Internet, in all guest rooms"

DennisOl: Hi, BJ.

NinaTL: Which brings me to the question: who is and who isn't a webhead?

DennisOl: Interesting question.

NinaTL: For example, there's a woman named Gina who emailed me

NinaTL: She was in B4E and has been exploring the BaW materials

VanceS: I always tell people, it's like being a hippy

NinaTL: Yes, that is what I thought

VanceS: you either are or you aren't one

VanceS: and you know if you are

NinaTL: It doesn't have to be official then

VanceS: (and if someone else is)

BjB . o O ( being a webhead is a state of mind )

NinaTL: Remember Veronica from CA last year?

NinaTL: She was also a B4B person

DennisOl: Yes, I remember her.

NinaTL agrees with BJ

NinaTL: I haven't heard from her lately

DennisOl agrees with BJ and Nina.

DennisOl: Did she travel somewhere?

NinaTL doesn't think so

DennisOl: Veronica Baig:

DennisOl: http://www.athabascau.ca/cll/staff/veronicab.html

DennisOl: (includes mailto link)

DennisOl: She was blogging in February:

DennisOl: http://english140blog.blogspot.com/

MaryJB joined the room.

DennisOl: Hi, Mary.

BjB waves hi to Mary

MaryJB: Hi Dennis, I just dropoped in by mistake. I haev a meeting to go to in another room. Sorry to come in and out so fast!

VanceS: any time

BjB waves bye to Mary

DennisOl: Come back for a visit another time, Mary.

MaryJB: bye!

DennisOl: Bye—and take care!

DennisOl waves bye.

MaryJB left the room (signed off).

NinaTL: Well guys I am going to return to my to-do list: laundry, printing webheads badges...

DennisOl: Busy, busy, busy!

VanceS: me too

NinaTL: btw the reservation at Pongsri is under the name of Webheads

NinaTL: haha

VanceS: nice to see everyone

DennisOl: Likewise!

NinaTL: Have a good flight, Vance

NinaTL: See you on Wednesday!

VanceS: can we get a credit card under name of webheads?

DennisOl: Ditto from me!

NinaTL: Good question

NinaTL: Dennis, c u in cyberspace

VanceS: (open source)

DennisOl: I look forward to it, Nina!

NinaTL: Vaughan, nice to meet you here

BjB hugs. Take care, everyone

DennisOl: Likewise, Vaughan.

NinaTL hugs BJ

VanceS: bye everyone

NinaTL hurtles through cyberspace back to MD

DennisOl: Take care, Vance! My best to Bobbi, OK?

NinaTL left the room (signed off).

DennisOl: It's time for me to leave, too.

DennisOl: Take care BJ, Vance, Vaughan.

DennisOl: Poof! Dennis vanishes into the cybersphere!

DennisOl left the room (signed off).

VanceS follows

VanceS left the room (signed off).


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